Nationwide gas stove ban?

[tennblondie78]

I think if child welfare is truly the focus, then the topic should be on the much bigger issue of children growing up in homes with parents who smoke than gas stoves. I grew up with a chain smoking mother; she would light her next cigarette with the one she was finishing. Our entire house was stained yellow inside from nicotine; her house still is. Her white appliances are harvest gold. I have had respiratory problems my entire life.

Cigarette smoking is a much more sensitive topic than gas stoves, though.

 

[bradfordwhite]

#80

Oh honey...
Both parents here too. I don't know that chain smoke would be fitting but close. I remember waking in the morning, opening my door to what appeared to a heavy fog with the stench of coffee. It was so bad, I didn't want to get up when they were there and affected my school.

 

[kenwashesmonday]

According to a 2020 report by the National Fire Protection Association, households with electric stoves reported fires at a rate 2.6 times higher than those with gas stoves.

 

[panasonicvac]

Definitely agree with reply #70, I've seen electric stuff catch on fire as well so that doesn't convince me that electric is better than gas. Both have their pros and cons. My parents replaced their gas dryer with an electric dryer because they were or at least my mom thought that the gas dryer would easily catch on fire. That never did happened. But even electric dryers can catch on fire too. I wished we went with another gas dryer because I actually did liked that Maytag Neptune we had before, I didn't find a performance difference between that and our LG electric dryers. But we definitely would've kept saving money, help the environment more, and the dryer would run more efficient. I know for my new house I'm planning to go with a gas dryer. I'm also going with a gas water heater, gas furnace, gas refrigerator/freezer, gas grill, and even a gas stove as well.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

I refuse to get on the bandwagon they're pushing today about getting on electric every thing this soon because I refuse to ignore the fact our national electric infrastructure is woefully behind the times and capacity to support it in its present form. Stop putting the cart before the horse. Work on the system first so when the time comes its got more than enough capacity to handle the extreme burden all these green people want to throw at it, it will have no issue handling it all and there wont be such a thing as restrictions during peak times, black outs, etc. Its not that hard to figure out. Plentiful electricity will be cheaper electricity.

 

[qsd-dan]

There's hazards to everything in life. Nothing is guaranteed.

 

 

 

[bradfordwhite]

How the gas industry sucked in social influencers to have them
pull at the heart strings of people ....using the gas stove as bait.

Just to sell their bad product.
Even though, stoves use less than 3% of gas in the home. hmmmm?

When a young person seems weirdly possessed by gas stoves, perhaps they've been watching too many slanted commercials.

I present to educate and help as I'm often correct and I don't care about telling people what they WANT to hear.

I love being able to say: "See I told you so, you should've listened"
My conscious is clear and there are those who actually take good advice.

 

[bradfordwhite]

#83

Compare apples to apples.

A perfectly good safely installed electric stove VS a perfectly good safe(as can be) installed gas stove.

The gas stove and piping is a danger just sitting there. When you turn it on it's spewing all kinds of toxins.

The electric stove possesses no danger either sitting idle or when turned on.

Sure any appliance can need a repair. It's certainly not correct to take a melted or damaged plug and claim that's typical. Gas stoves can have leaking pipes and couplers or the very common one: a leaking shut off valve.

We know all about fixing appliances in this group RIGHT?

 

[maytag85]

“The electric stove possesses no danger either sitting idle or turned on”.

You don’t realize that electricity can short out to ground, causing a dangerous situation but usually the breaker or fuse box will intervene before anything else can happen but there’s that small chance the breaker won’t always work and yes it’s rare but has happed though.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

I've cooked with both kinds of stoves, I'd had hunks of electric rod burners blow off and luckily not hit any person, when the burner would give out, more than any suffered any similar danger cooking with gas, and even cooked over barbecues and campfires burning wood and carbon monoxide producing charcoal, and I ain't dead yet...

Eat your food raw then, just look out for salmonella!

-- Dave

 

[mattl]

A well balanced article on the issue.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-01-13/will-gas-range-make-you-sick-science

 

[panasonicvac]

Reply #87

Um no. Electrical wiring can and will go bad eventually, not "if". I completely agree with #85, there's always a chance that something could go wrong whether it's just outdated or not done properly. In fact, when we had our first log cabin renovated, an electrician definitely screwed up with one of our electrical outlets because they wired them in wrong. Someone went to use the vacuum cleaner one day and it fried the vacuum up completely, we were lucky that it didn't get any worse. The cabin would've caught on fire and that would've been an electrical cause, not gas. Especially that there would've been a chance that our breaker wouldn't had stopped that from happening, I also agree with #88 here. After all these years of using gas stoves at my grandparents' house, neither of us felt like we were exposed to these dangerous spreads of carbon monoxide. Like I said previously before, what would happen when there's another power outage? Electric doesn't win me right there.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

Cruel but Honest Question:

Now what about all those gas stoves on shoppers square? Are they for sale because they’re being banned and can we buy them or is it illegal to?

— Dave

 

[DADoES]

 
It's amusing all the folks being anti-electric while posting via their electric computers or phones or tablets to a website that runs on the electric Internet.  Apparently the only electric usage that's bad is cooking of food and heating of water and heating of the air space within buildings?

 

[kenwashesmonday]

I don't see anyone being anti-electric, just pointing out that it's really no safer than gas.

 

[wayupnorth]

Using electricity for major appliances and heating is prohibitively expensive here. So I will stay with more affordable propane and oil.

 

[joeekaitis]

Next:

 

Mandatory restaurant signage giving the breakdown of cooking technology so diners can make "an informed conscientious environmentally sound choice" of where to eat out.

80% GAS
10% ELECTRIC RADIANT
10% ELECTRIC INDUCTION

 

[ea56]

It seems that this thread has forgotten of the whole purpose of the banning of gas appliances. It has nothing to do with safety as far as fire and explosions. Rather the reason for this governmental proposal is for HEALTH reasons. Using gas appliances in the home, especially the newer air tight construction homes can be unhealthy for children and those individuals with asthma and other respiratory problems. If you don’t have asthma, good for you. But if you do, and I do, you sure don’t want to do or use anything that will make it worse. Its a serious enough condition to begin with.

In the old days, which I remember well, gas stoves, heaters and water heaters were vented to the outside. As far as I can tell all the newer gas stoves I’ve seen have no external venting. I haven’t had a gas water heater for over 28 years, but it was vented to the outside and was in a storage shed outside the home.

This thread reads like the movie “Panic in the Year Zero”. Whatever eventually comes to pass regarding the sale and use of gas appliances is something that we will all adjust to. Its not going to be the end of the world.

Eddie[this post was last edited: 1/14/2023-13:58]

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Lets all just not bother to leave the house these days, because of all the things the govt or different agencies tell us are bad for us we've all been exposed to most of our lives. Hell lets not even live in a house because of all its toxins, lets all just live in caves in remote areas and hope we dont get exposed to too much Radon or eaten by bears because thats are safest option right now......

 

[justjunque]

Eddie,

I hope you take this the way it's intended.
I'm sorry to hear that you have to deal with asthma. I have a family member who has it. It's no joke.
And, if you find that gas appliances aggravate your condition, then i don't blame you at all for not wanting them in your home.
But, to me, that's part of the beauty of freedom. You can choose what's right for you.
Most of us still have that freedom.
Whether it's stoves, cars, light bulbs, etc, I don't see the need for a city, state, or federal ban on things.
Except to give a government that's supposed to work FOR the people, (yeah...right), more authority to control the people.
No. A ban on gas stoves wouldn't be the end of the world. But, it would be one more step in the wrong direction.