Since the whole hoo ha was about the development of asthma with children, I guess we can draw the conclusion he is probably no part of the target group anymore.
Nationwide gas stove ban?
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First it was the dangers of microwave ovens, now they're on the gas stove kick. Whats next? They coming after our Hobart mixers and stick blenders because the arcing of the brushes just made a hole over The Fiji's and they got snow there for the first time ever? Get a life. Its time people brought attention to the pollution going on around the other side of the world thats largely being ignored and unchecked and doing more permanent harm than all the west combined.
2packs4sure
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It's kind of perfect.
It's kind of perfect that it's "the children",,, by the time it's proven wrong or at best inconclusive the deed will be done,, gas stoves will be gone..
Probably all gas appliances.
You can't get to the green utopia with gas appliances lingering around.
It's actually kind of a miracle the planet is still at all here since we've had 10 years to save it since 1989..
It's kind of perfect that it's "the children",,, by the time it's proven wrong or at best inconclusive the deed will be done,, gas stoves will be gone..
Probably all gas appliances.
You can't get to the green utopia with gas appliances lingering around.
It's actually kind of a miracle the planet is still at all here since we've had 10 years to save it since 1989..
Don't know about the gas stoves...
But the guy with the head in the sand has a very good fitting suit!
But the guy with the head in the sand has a very good fitting suit!
I think long before anyone should focus efforts on the possible harm gas stoves are causing us they should research how we're being poisoned from all the imported food from countries like China etc that prob have more toxins in them we ingest than any gas stove we've been cooking on all our lives. Some of the foods I've seen at Asian markets or places like Ocean State Job Lot or dollar stores boggles my mind how it sneaked in here. Our FDA is failing us miserably for decades!
2packs4sure
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You're SO right robbinsandmyers !!
That and MANY other things need dealing with first !!
Gas stoves-appliances would be about 500th on the list...
That and MANY other things need dealing with first !!
Gas stoves-appliances would be about 500th on the list...
Looks like gas stoves may just do themselves in
I’ve got customers every day that are calling, wanting to get rid of their gas stoves now, it’s amazing induction came out in 1969 and it is never sold, but I guess gas stoves are gonna be what really makes it sell finally.
I’m working with four people right now that are changing out their stoves and I talked to the local appliance distributor and they said they’re getting tons of inquiries getting rid of the gas stoves now.
I think once people realize that there really was a danger with these that they’re going to make the appropriate moves on their own.
It’s going to be increasingly difficult to even sell a home with a gas stove in it to many families.
It makes no sense to compare that hazard from a gas stove to other hazards in the world, that type of thinking doesn’t help anything.
John
I’ve got customers every day that are calling, wanting to get rid of their gas stoves now, it’s amazing induction came out in 1969 and it is never sold, but I guess gas stoves are gonna be what really makes it sell finally.
I’m working with four people right now that are changing out their stoves and I talked to the local appliance distributor and they said they’re getting tons of inquiries getting rid of the gas stoves now.
I think once people realize that there really was a danger with these that they’re going to make the appropriate moves on their own.
It’s going to be increasingly difficult to even sell a home with a gas stove in it to many families.
It makes no sense to compare that hazard from a gas stove to other hazards in the world, that type of thinking doesn’t help anything.
John
Because I have a hood over my gas range with a powerful exhaust fan vented to outside I'm not worried, but with this in the news I have been more diligent about using the fan.
I'm sure there are many apartment buildings out there with gas ranges and no exhaust fan.
I'm sure there are many apartment buildings out there with gas ranges and no exhaust fan.
Ach, mien Gott in Himmel! The consternation over potential banning of gas stoves is really mind boggling. If you learn that something has the potential to be hazardous to the health of others and yourself find a reasonable way to mitigate the hazard.
The hysteria around this topic reminds me of how some people are so reckless in their cars. I’ve driven up Interstate Hwy 80 to Sacramento on a Saturday in heavy traffic and witnessed several mini vans loaded with little kids, hurtling up the highway at 85-90 MPH, weaving in and out of traffic. Now these people must be aware that they are carrying precious cargo, their children, and must be aware that driving this fast is dangerous, yet they do it anyway! WTH!
Refusing to recognize the potential hazards of gas stoves just because, “well I like them and I won’t give them up” is the same thing as driving like a maniac with a mini van full of your kids. You know its dangerous, but you continue to do it anyway.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 1/24/2023-14:39]
The hysteria around this topic reminds me of how some people are so reckless in their cars. I’ve driven up Interstate Hwy 80 to Sacramento on a Saturday in heavy traffic and witnessed several mini vans loaded with little kids, hurtling up the highway at 85-90 MPH, weaving in and out of traffic. Now these people must be aware that they are carrying precious cargo, their children, and must be aware that driving this fast is dangerous, yet they do it anyway! WTH!
Refusing to recognize the potential hazards of gas stoves just because, “well I like them and I won’t give them up” is the same thing as driving like a maniac with a mini van full of your kids. You know its dangerous, but you continue to do it anyway.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 1/24/2023-14:39]
Concerning the driving of motor vehicles, there is a reason why there are speed limits, obeying them mitigates the hazard…
As for gas ranges, what sort of mitigation is needed? We’re endlessly beating a dead horse banning their entire existence…
Need adequate ventilation for them? Get and/or use what devices or methods while using provide the needed ventilation?
Invincible to the poisonous carbon monoxide and deadly fumes? Keep on cooking with them—this is going to be a very endlessly divided issue…
Too many other acts of product and conduct the government has to step in and regulate versus the governed unanimously punished for the wrongdoing happening to only some…
— Dave
As for gas ranges, what sort of mitigation is needed? We’re endlessly beating a dead horse banning their entire existence…
Need adequate ventilation for them? Get and/or use what devices or methods while using provide the needed ventilation?
Invincible to the poisonous carbon monoxide and deadly fumes? Keep on cooking with them—this is going to be a very endlessly divided issue…
Too many other acts of product and conduct the government has to step in and regulate versus the governed unanimously punished for the wrongdoing happening to only some…
— Dave
Oh my god nobody is banning anything.
One poop head runs his mouth on what could be considered down the road. And everyone loses their minds over it with media fanning the flames.
Before anything happens there will be more studies. There will also be a required public comments period that can last up to 1 year.
After that, there will likely be mitigation campaigns and money thrown around for certain retrofits.
If anything is eventually banned, it will be gas stoves in new construction or renovations.
The way so many are going about this, off and on this forum, you’d think agents were gonna be running into peoples’ homes, yanking appliances.
Www.notgonnahappen.com
Everyone knows that’s the fast track to another Waco.
There will likely be administration changes in all that time, and anything can change in that period.
Including and up to us all being forced to use coal stoves in our homes
One poop head runs his mouth on what could be considered down the road. And everyone loses their minds over it with media fanning the flames.
Before anything happens there will be more studies. There will also be a required public comments period that can last up to 1 year.
After that, there will likely be mitigation campaigns and money thrown around for certain retrofits.
If anything is eventually banned, it will be gas stoves in new construction or renovations.
The way so many are going about this, off and on this forum, you’d think agents were gonna be running into peoples’ homes, yanking appliances.
Www.notgonnahappen.com
Everyone knows that’s the fast track to another Waco.
There will likely be administration changes in all that time, and anything can change in that period.
Including and up to us all being forced to use coal stoves in our homes
Aye, Aye John! Three cheers for the voice of reason.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 1/25/2023-16:09]
Eddie[this post was last edited: 1/25/2023-16:09]
I agree, such drama for nothing.
Man suffers most from the suffering he fears!
Man suffers most from the suffering he fears!
If I'm not mistaken, it's been primarily just one person who drove this thread into the ditch, repeatedly.
That said, I like my gas cooktop in the main kitchen, and am intending to replace the Frigidaire electric range in the patio kitchen with a spark ignited Modern Maid gas range. I've been putting that off because of the work involved. And I need to test the (used) Modern Maid to make sure it works OK first. I did have a gas line run to the location of the range in the patio kitchen back when I replaced the Corning electric cooktop with the "Gas on Glass" Frigidaire cooktop in the main kitchen. And who knows? With all the anti-gas stove propaganda floating around California, I can probably find a top rate used gas range cheap cheap cheap.
I grew up with gas ranges and heating. As I recall they were all vented properly, although the pilot lights probably polluted more than desirable. But that issue went away with newer gas ranges for the past 40+ years, with the advent of spark igniters. Never had asthma, either.
That said, I like my gas cooktop in the main kitchen, and am intending to replace the Frigidaire electric range in the patio kitchen with a spark ignited Modern Maid gas range. I've been putting that off because of the work involved. And I need to test the (used) Modern Maid to make sure it works OK first. I did have a gas line run to the location of the range in the patio kitchen back when I replaced the Corning electric cooktop with the "Gas on Glass" Frigidaire cooktop in the main kitchen. And who knows? With all the anti-gas stove propaganda floating around California, I can probably find a top rate used gas range cheap cheap cheap.
I grew up with gas ranges and heating. As I recall they were all vented properly, although the pilot lights probably polluted more than desirable. But that issue went away with newer gas ranges for the past 40+ years, with the advent of spark igniters. Never had asthma, either.
I don’t Know what to say about all this..
Should I be scared?
House is old and a little drafty (maybe that’s good)
Should I be scared?
House is old and a little drafty (maybe that’s good)
Yes, a little drafty is good. New houses are tight, people don't open windows, then they find they get asthma, get sick a lot, and can't have carpeting.
Clearly a wrong understanding of asthma.
[COLOR=#111111; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-weight: 400; font-size: 12pt]Asthma is triggered by air pollutants and irritants[/COLOR]
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/asthma/symptoms-causes/syc-20369653
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/asthma/symptoms-causes/syc-20369653
I can assure you that you don’t have to tell me what asthma is. That page gives only a bit of information. There’s much more to it. For instance my asthma was triggered by a virus infection.
Not enough ventilation on it’s own doesn’t cause asthma. The “can’t have carpeting” is only an issue with allergy induced astha when someone has a dustmite allergy.
Not enough ventilation on it’s own doesn’t cause asthma. The “can’t have carpeting” is only an issue with allergy induced astha when someone has a dustmite allergy.
When I was a kid in the 1960s, the houses in my neighborhood were built in the 1920s, everyone had carpeting, most homes had gas ranges, many had oil/steam heat, and asthma was no where near as common in children as it is today.
