Whirlpool-Maytag-KitchenAid dishwashers: 2020 Redesign
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pierreandreply4
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i wonder if these new models will require the call of an electrician to install an outlet to plug the power cord in?
Yes, it looks like Bosch's MyWay rack meets Asko's middle rack meets a Spin Tube or Midea InnoWash spray system. Interesting, though.
tomdawg
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spin tubes
I wonder if the spin tubes will be the new way of dishwashing? I believe the old ones back in the day had them. spray arms take up a lot of room in the dishwasher.
I wonder if the spin tubes will be the new way of dishwashing? I believe the old ones back in the day had them. spray arms take up a lot of room in the dishwasher.
I noticed in the video the sump is a bit more contained in a "well", concentrated around the pump. (No doubt due to how the motor is rearranged underneath and also gives more height for the racks). That might help with food particles being fed easier into the system for filtering. Sometimes I have debris that's not pushed into the sump to be put through filtering. The instances are when debris is around the edge of the tub on any of the 4 sides. And my machine fills up to proper water level. And I also find this the case if I add some extra water to counter this. Also, the heating element looks more substantial than mine. I have to admit I'm a bit curious to know if some tweaks have been made to the Clean Water Wash System as opposed to my 1st generation design. I've also been a little bit leery as to whether a Bosch with the MyWay 3rd rack and how well it could clean a cereal bowl that's been used to cook hot cereal. I imagine this targeted jets will do very well in those situations.
mark_wpduet
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Just so I'm clear
this redesign will replace removable filters and put back in hard food disposers like the Maytags have always had?
this redesign will replace removable filters and put back in hard food disposers like the Maytags have always had?
Kind of
Kind of, yeah, but see it more like a more elaborate self cleaning filter with soft food disposer.
Kind of, yeah, but see it more like a more elaborate self cleaning filter with soft food disposer.
Whirlpool/maytag
Will these new Maytag's alternate wash arms? Will whirlpool release there own version or will they keep the global wash system? I'm excited myself.
Will these new Maytag's alternate wash arms? Will whirlpool release there own version or will they keep the global wash system? I'm excited myself.
murando531
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In today's world, I'm sure they have to do this because some dummy would put a pizza with meat and pepperoni on it, or a whole cake with walnut chunks inside or something, and then file a lawsuit because their pump assembly had to be torn out because the insoluble food gummed it up.
I wouldn't even attempt the cake test in my PowerClean if there were any food ingredients involved that don't dissolve in heat and water. Most people don't have common sense though, hence our society of "this could burn you/hurt you" labels on everything we buy.
In today's world, I'm sure they have to do this because some dummy would put a pizza with meat and pepperoni on it, or a whole cake with walnut chunks inside or something, and then file a lawsuit because their pump assembly had to be torn out because the insoluble food gummed it up.
I wouldn't even attempt the cake test in my PowerClean if there were any food ingredients involved that don't dissolve in heat and water. Most people don't have common sense though, hence our society of "this could burn you/hurt you" labels on everything we buy.
Somewhat impressed
Those rotating spray arms for the third rack are very cool. I just hope this design works as well as they state. However, if the dual filter whatever system works as good as they claim, shouldn’t a normal cycle take care of those soils of the pizza, cake, and PB&J? Sensors should pick up on that extra junk. The power blast cycle in current machines uses about 7 fills if I remember correctly. I’d certainly hope it would be capable of doing that.
Those rotating spray arms for the third rack are very cool. I just hope this design works as well as they state. However, if the dual filter whatever system works as good as they claim, shouldn’t a normal cycle take care of those soils of the pizza, cake, and PB&J? Sensors should pick up on that extra junk. The power blast cycle in current machines uses about 7 fills if I remember correctly. I’d certainly hope it would be capable of doing that.
spray arm action
I bet maytag's gonna start alternating spray arms like the rest of the whirlpool family does with their wash action. eh?
I bet maytag's gonna start alternating spray arms like the rest of the whirlpool family does with their wash action. eh?
That's my dishwasher with the 3rd rack added. This one was added to Sears July 2016, my model was released August 2015. Specs say these had t4e cylinder spin at 3400 rpms where as the new models spin at 3600 rpms according to one of the videos.
murando531
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@lakewebsterkid - It should. I suppose they also like to showcase the marketing to their “PowerBlast” cycle on the Maytags. To be honest, the overuse of the word Power on the Maytag products is cheesy to me. On the dishwashers it’s literally just the same as Heavy cycle on all the sister machines. It doesn’t increase pressure or anything, just forces the max number of prewashes and rinses and heats the main wash.
That said, the cake tests I’ve done on the Whirlpool 920 and KitchenAid KDFE104, along with the scorch test I did on thread floating around this site somewhere, I believe I used the Sensor or Normal cycles, and the machine decided to run with the max three prewashes with purges between, plus three full rinses. So I’d imagine these new machines would operate in a similar fashion.
Also, that manual seems to be for the 2015 to 2019 MicroClean/CleanWater system like I believe appnut(Bob) has.
That said, the cake tests I’ve done on the Whirlpool 920 and KitchenAid KDFE104, along with the scorch test I did on thread floating around this site somewhere, I believe I used the Sensor or Normal cycles, and the machine decided to run with the max three prewashes with purges between, plus three full rinses. So I’d imagine these new machines would operate in a similar fashion.
Also, that manual seems to be for the 2015 to 2019 MicroClean/CleanWater system like I believe appnut(Bob) has.
Interesting
Andrew, that sounds about right! Thanks!
Interesting to see the KA MicroClean machines for the first time. appnut, have you had good luck with yours? I didn’t know KA made anything like it! Seems like a cool design.
Andrew, that sounds about right! Thanks!
Interesting to see the KA MicroClean machines for the first time. appnut, have you had good luck with yours? I didn’t know KA made anything like it! Seems like a cool design.
I can't tell if it alternates wash arms or not. I am thinking that it does just because of that new 3rd rack 360 bottle wash.
The motor looks the same that is on Maytag dishwashers now. It says 1/3 H.P. on Maytags web-site but on the motor it says .24 H.P. and 2.1 Amps of current . The motor is much more powerful than all of them out there that I have found. Most dishwasher pump motors today are 50 to 100 watt Askol Aquarium type motors.
I wonder if Whirlpool will use this type of pump with all there dishwashers like Amana,Jen-air and there own brand.
The motor looks the same that is on Maytag dishwashers now. It says 1/3 H.P. on Maytags web-site but on the motor it says .24 H.P. and 2.1 Amps of current . The motor is much more powerful than all of them out there that I have found. Most dishwasher pump motors today are 50 to 100 watt Askol Aquarium type motors.
I wonder if Whirlpool will use this type of pump with all there dishwashers like Amana,Jen-air and there own brand.
