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Backpacks!!!

Hey Andrew I`m sure everything washable will make its way towards a "Miele Programme"...max will have the cleanest bedding around!!!interesting scenario about the freezing water, I`m sure a bit of feedback to them may not go amiss!!! accuracy is one thing that is a Miele advantage...What type of detergent did you use??
 
Detergent

I just bought a jug of this new Tide TotalCare HE, and LOVE IT. Smells so good, especially on Sanitize (70C, 158F). It's our main detergent brand here in the US.

If it's possible to be in love with an appliance, I'm living proof!

Andrew
 
One thing you will notice that i have noticed on my Miele that it will make HE liquids suds up like crazy. The drum plays a big part in the suds factor plus so does the fact that HE liquids suds up no matter how much or little one uses of it. If you can get your mitts on Persil Powder or even the MegaPearls then do so. It will unlock that washer's cleaning ability. Tide HE powder does very well also. I have also found that with Liquid HE detergent my 4800 will go into a sudslock. Then I get the light reminding me that it was oversudsed. . Yours may do the same.
 
Suds

Mike,

Thanks for the note - after the initial sanitize cycle the machine requires to remove it's spin lock, I decided to do a huge load of towels to help clean out the drum further. Not sure how sudsy it would get, I just used the manufacturer recommendation on the Tide TotalCare to line 2 for a large load. I did sudslock, but line 1 would probably have been about right for the load size.

I'm still experimenting with dosage as you have to do with any new washer really. I'll try some Tide HE Powder tonight when I get home to watch Miele TV. :-)

Miele W3033, television for men.

Andrew
 
Drum Light

Unfortunately no. It turns off after the initial fill down the door. I do have LED lights that run off AC which I've attached to my Tripod though for filming / viewing :)

I have the service manual for the W3033 and it doesn't give any settings for the drum light other than enabling it / disabling it in the service mode.

Andrew
 
oh one thing too is that if your previous washer didnt rinse clothes out well it will show up in the Miele as suds and lots of them. Towels especially are notorious for that.
 
congrats Andrew !

ChesterMike is really right : you can wash such things one wouldn't dare to throw into a washing machine. Camping tents, backpacks, wetsuits, lambswool/cashmere jumpers, loden jackets, raincoats, duvet jackets/coats, ski suits .....

If the W48XX servicemode code is right for the W30XX too you'll be able to adjust the "sensitive" option for a furter rinse and a rinse level like the delicate cycle

@ Mike(nmassman)-Liquids : i have no problem, unless I use wool detergents on regular or permapress instead of wool/delicate/handwash cycles. Same applies to my brother's machine with the honeycomb drum. Maybe your liquids are so sudsy like Woolite ? Maybe you've extremly soft water ?

Carlo
 
Dosage

Andrwe, you gotta also remember that this machine is smaller than the large U.S. front loaders the manufacturers design the dosages for. I find in my 3.1 cu. ft. Frigidaire, line one or line two at the most is more than adequte. A very full load in a 4.4 cu. ft. front loader would probably need line 3 or 4, depending upon the soil leve.
 
Towels Wash

Towels Wash at 70C - I did reduce detergent, still a bit too sudsy :-) I'll knock it back more next time.

Enjoy!

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Final Spin

1300 RPM Spin after the first sanitize wash to clean out the residual oils in the drum from manufacturing.

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Does size matter?

So now that you've had it a little while, any further thoughts on the capacity? I really like the build quality, reliability and wash performance of the smaller, horizontal axis machines. But, since we're a family of four, I'm afraid I'd be chained to the darn thing doing our mountain of laundry.

How many are in your household? Do you think the smaller size is an issue?
 
Machine Size

There are 2 of us here, and the way I see it, the more loads of wash I get to do in this gem the better :-) I can still load quite a lot of towels in it.

I don't mind the reduced capacity as the machine meeting it's target temperatures is a tradeoff. Neither if the LG's I owned with heaters would reach 70C on a regular basis. Generally it would stop at like 63C, 65C.

I bought an infrared thermometer to handily check temps at the door glass :)

Andrew
 
@ Mysteryclock : sit on the river bank and wait ......

I guess they will introduce the latest bigger series (W5000 W6000) in the northamerican markets too. These machines are rated 7 (some even 8 KG) despite the outer size is standard. Check them on the UK mielesite :

http://www.miele.co.uk/washing-machines/
 
Coming to a home near you...Soon!!!

Oh Carlo, you are such a tease!!!...LOl, I hear they are on their way!!! my best seller at the moment is the W5740...classic & functional, and thank goodness they have brought out the matching Vented Dryer, the T8722, they also listened to customer & retailer feedback about the grey doored models and so we got the W1756 with its big chrome door!!!
 
Size isn't everything...

...when it comes to actual capability of doing a good/excellent job on the wash....

These machines are rated in our market at 6.5kg (14lb) and are designed to be filled to capacity. That is right to the very top of the drum....

To put this into some perspective...

2 x Queen sized sheets
4 x pillow slips
1 x Queen size quilt cover.....

is NOT a capacity load in these machines.....

My mother had a 4.5kg (10lb) ASEA and washed for a family of 4 without any issues....

I can only say that you shouldn't be afraid to use the full capacity and capability of a Europeean machine. Having seen videos of American front load machines in action I am always amazed at how underloaded they are given the size of them....

If you're concerned about if a Euro sized machine will suit, ask a retailer of Bosch/Miele/Asko if you can bring a basket of CLEAN laundry in one afternoon or morning (near close/open) to load a machine with what you would normally consider a 'full' load....just remember there is a method to load just like a top loader (where you 'drop')...don't 'scrunch' or 'ball' but rather 'lie' them in. I grab shirts, tracks and jeans around the middle and put them im 'folded' if that makes sense...keep loading until you can just get your hand up over the top of the load....or load till it is really full (and the drum moves front to rear as you try to put things in) and take a heavy shirt out...

That will be close to a capacity load in a European machine.....
 
Underloaded FLs in the US ?

Chris,
that makes sense with our machines whose wash bath is *at least* half an hour long....

But if I think of those american E'lux with extremly low water levels .. their wash part of the cycle is max 21 minutes long ... well I guess I'd underload them too. A full load (as we mean it) takes 5 or even 10 minutes to saturate . Not a case in "our" machines the quick 30 mins cycle is made for very small loads only.

For real full loads I'd always push "Extended" in the US mieles

Ironically the 220 Volt version of the Affinity sold here takes forever (3 hours !!) to complete a cotton 60°C cycle
 
Shipping Struts

I thought I would share what the Miele shipping struts look like. They are very heavy steel, which could handily be used for a weapon if anyone tries to steal the new baby. LOL. I cleaned all the much off of them and took some pictures, then placed them in their respective holders on the back of the machine. Can't lose them this way!

Andrew

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Interesting to see that the transport rods haven't changed since I bought my Miele W765 in 1985.

The provision for storing them on the backside is new for me.

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Very nice thread and thanx for putting in the time.

I watched your videos. I did notice a lot of suds, I never get that close in my LG when using the recommended amount.

The water level in your Meile seems the same as my LG with permanent press and the extra water button pushed. What I did notice was a lack of "pause" time to allow the water to soak thru the cloths. Your machine seems to be always spinning, ergo I think that may be creating more suds than my LG.

Once again, thanx for one of the best washing machine threads I have ever seen.
 

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