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MOVING A MAYTAG E2L
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e2l-arry
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Today's adventure!
I do like my EBay power unit better than the original. It just ran and sounded a lot smoother than the one it came with. Granted, I haven't run the original since it was cleaned and the loose metal removed but, the devil you know . . .Except for those drips of the old dark oil it (the Ebay PU) was leaking at the pulley shaft. So tonight I did what I'd been thinking about. I removed and cleaned the washers and seal that are assembled around the pulley shaft.
I pulled all 6 layers out and kept them in order. Then used cleaner and cleaned the seal and washers and got all the old gunk out of the shaft housing. The seal appeared to be in good shape. I could even still read the numbers on it. So when re-assembling, the seal had a nice snug fit. Put it all back together in the right order, put the snap ring back on a PRESTO!
Like I said, it's just washer, seal, washer, spring washer, washer, snap ring. Piece of cake!
Between the cleaning and the new oil I hope there will be no more dripping out of that shaft. I'll run it for a good bit before I put the tub back in. So if I made it worse somehow, I don't see how THAT'S possible, but if I did, I'll swap it out the the one it came with.
I do like my EBay power unit better than the original. It just ran and sounded a lot smoother than the one it came with. Granted, I haven't run the original since it was cleaned and the loose metal removed but, the devil you know . . .Except for those drips of the old dark oil it (the Ebay PU) was leaking at the pulley shaft. So tonight I did what I'd been thinking about. I removed and cleaned the washers and seal that are assembled around the pulley shaft.
I pulled all 6 layers out and kept them in order. Then used cleaner and cleaned the seal and washers and got all the old gunk out of the shaft housing. The seal appeared to be in good shape. I could even still read the numbers on it. So when re-assembling, the seal had a nice snug fit. Put it all back together in the right order, put the snap ring back on a PRESTO!
Like I said, it's just washer, seal, washer, spring washer, washer, snap ring. Piece of cake!
Between the cleaning and the new oil I hope there will be no more dripping out of that shaft. I'll run it for a good bit before I put the tub back in. So if I made it worse somehow, I don't see how THAT'S possible, but if I did, I'll swap it out the the one it came with.
Good job.
hate to ask you, but can you snap another pic of that from a different angle.
I'd like to get a better look at the spot where the pulley is attached. Trying to see if part of the shaft is flat?
(once in a while, mine drips a tiny bit from there too)
hate to ask you, but can you snap another pic of that from a different angle.
I'd like to get a better look at the spot where the pulley is attached. Trying to see if part of the shaft is flat?
(once in a while, mine drips a tiny bit from there too)
geoffdelp
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Nice, Larry. It is pretty simple, isn't it? Kind of reminds you of the center plate seal, doesn't it?
Fun to watch; isn't it Stan?
Fun to watch; isn't it Stan?
e2l-arry
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Stan,
It's already re-assembled so I can't take another picture. But looking at it I can tell that the shaft is round until it's through the unit. Then about maybe the last 2 inched has a flat side to secure the bolt from the pulley.
It's already re-assembled so I can't take another picture. But looking at it I can tell that the shaft is round until it's through the unit. Then about maybe the last 2 inched has a flat side to secure the bolt from the pulley.
O.K thats
what I thought!
Yes it is fun to watch, wish I could be there in person to see, that would be more fun.
For now we'll just have to rely on Larry's pics!
Out of curiosity...is it just the die hards hanging on here? I know Jim, Geoff, myself, and of course Larry, are tuning in on this? Any of the rest of you out there peeking in? LOL
what I thought!
Yes it is fun to watch, wish I could be there in person to see, that would be more fun.
For now we'll just have to rely on Larry's pics!
Out of curiosity...is it just the die hards hanging on here? I know Jim, Geoff, myself, and of course Larry, are tuning in on this? Any of the rest of you out there peeking in? LOL
Stan
I don't have a wringer washer or any experience with them, so I haven't had anything worthwhile to add to this thread. But it's still very interesting, so I've been following it closely since it morphed from moving a wringer to essentially overhauling one. And even though I'm not commenting on his progress, I'll keep checking in until Larry finishes this project or throws in the towel. So yes, others are following this thread. ; - )
I don't have a wringer washer or any experience with them, so I haven't had anything worthwhile to add to this thread. But it's still very interesting, so I've been following it closely since it morphed from moving a wringer to essentially overhauling one. And even though I'm not commenting on his progress, I'll keep checking in until Larry finishes this project or throws in the towel. So yes, others are following this thread. ; - )
e2l-arry
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Mikeyd
still checks in from time to time. alr2903 Also made comment after last weekends disasterous adventures. Hopefully, the only towel throwing I'll be doing will be a dirty one into a WORKING and water tight, non-oil leaking, refurbished E2LP Maytag Conventional Washer! I think I'm due!
still checks in from time to time. alr2903 Also made comment after last weekends disasterous adventures. Hopefully, the only towel throwing I'll be doing will be a dirty one into a WORKING and water tight, non-oil leaking, refurbished E2LP Maytag Conventional Washer! I think I'm due!
whats
alr2903 ?
alr2903 ?
e2l-arry
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Ain't it purdy?
Really finished off the tub today. Scrubbed it down in the back yard with a hose and bucket of suds today. I found that steel wool or S.O.S. works better than wet sanding. When it feels rough, you're still removing tarnish or corrosion or whatever that build up is. Once it feels smooth, you've got it and move on to another section. Then I brought it in the house and gave it the Mother's Mag & Aluminum polish treatment on the crown and the inside.
Mike! If you read this I WAY miscalculated how much time I spent on the other tub. I think I told you an hour. I spent a good 4 or 5 on this one. My fingers are raw! But she sure is PURDY!
Stan, alr2903 replied on post 246.
Really finished off the tub today. Scrubbed it down in the back yard with a hose and bucket of suds today. I found that steel wool or S.O.S. works better than wet sanding. When it feels rough, you're still removing tarnish or corrosion or whatever that build up is. Once it feels smooth, you've got it and move on to another section. Then I brought it in the house and gave it the Mother's Mag & Aluminum polish treatment on the crown and the inside.
Mike! If you read this I WAY miscalculated how much time I spent on the other tub. I think I told you an hour. I spent a good 4 or 5 on this one. My fingers are raw! But she sure is PURDY!
Stan, alr2903 replied on post 246.
e2l-arry
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Here's the center plate
before the plug is inserted. This is what becomes the plug. You pull it through and get it as tight as you can. Then trim off the ends with a razor blade. The gasket, O-ring is in the picture but not inserted.
before the plug is inserted. This is what becomes the plug. You pull it through and get it as tight as you can. Then trim off the ends with a razor blade. The gasket, O-ring is in the picture but not inserted.
e2l-arry
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Here's
After the plug operation is completed. The gasket is inserted where it goes for the tub installation.
After the plug operation is completed. The gasket is inserted where it goes for the tub installation.
geoffdelp
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Oh boy ... nicely done, Larry! That tub is beautiful!! I use Brillo pads with "oxygen cleaner" in them; they work well, too.
That plug material really makes a tight seal, doesn't it?
That plug material really makes a tight seal, doesn't it?
e2l-arry
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And finally!
I did a mock up of the tub going over the center plate. This is how I have to make sure it's positioned before I tighten things down after installation back into the machine. There's a lip on the plate that edges up to the tub. Directly under the edge of the tub is the O-Ring/gasket that makes the water seal. The trick will be having the power unit/center plate adjusted just right. I think that, and the leak from the now gone screw socket are what messed me up last Saturday.
I did a mock up of the tub going over the center plate. This is how I have to make sure it's positioned before I tighten things down after installation back into the machine. There's a lip on the plate that edges up to the tub. Directly under the edge of the tub is the O-Ring/gasket that makes the water seal. The trick will be having the power unit/center plate adjusted just right. I think that, and the leak from the now gone screw socket are what messed me up last Saturday.
Beautiful
looks like a labor of love to me!
Sounds like your feeling a lot better about this second go around, and have things well thought through!
Thanks for the detailed pics
looks like a labor of love to me!
Sounds like your feeling a lot better about this second go around, and have things well thought through!
Thanks for the detailed pics
Just happened to
think! (after looking at the pics)
Did we ever determine what the little screw ( now plug) was intended for by the manufacture?
Dose it have a purpose? is there a receiving hole on the power unit for it?
Was it intended to be a possible way of adding lube to the power unit, just by removing the screw, adding lube, and then replacing the screw?
Talk among yourselves LOL
think! (after looking at the pics)
Did we ever determine what the little screw ( now plug) was intended for by the manufacture?
Dose it have a purpose? is there a receiving hole on the power unit for it?
Was it intended to be a possible way of adding lube to the power unit, just by removing the screw, adding lube, and then replacing the screw?
Talk among yourselves LOL
WOWWWWWWWWWWW
How would you like to trade tubs with me? You did a beautiful job on polishing the tub!!!!! I had mine looking like that when I first got it but made the mistake of using Tide with bleach powder in it the first wash and the oxygen bleach tarnished it pretty badly. Now I use just Tide powder and need to get busy and use Brillo pads and Mothers again. I am sure I am speaking for all of when I say we can't wait for its completion and your using her. GREAT JOB LARRY ALL THE WAY ROUND !!!
Jim
How would you like to trade tubs with me? You did a beautiful job on polishing the tub!!!!! I had mine looking like that when I first got it but made the mistake of using Tide with bleach powder in it the first wash and the oxygen bleach tarnished it pretty badly. Now I use just Tide powder and need to get busy and use Brillo pads and Mothers again. I am sure I am speaking for all of when I say we can't wait for its completion and your using her. GREAT JOB LARRY ALL THE WAY ROUND !!!
Jim
mickeyd
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Talk about washer art.......
You could almost shave in that shine.
On another topic, make sure you give the hose an upward pull when engaging the pump to get everything kosher.
You could almost shave in that shine.
On another topic, make sure you give the hose an upward pull when engaging the pump to get everything kosher.
e2l-arry
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As for the pump . . .
Mike, what do you mean about the upward pull? Last week when washing the pump didn't work. I assumed it needed more adjustment. But when I was taking things apart, I'd flip the pump lever to ON and the pump roller was engaged and rotating against the pulley rim. So I thought maybe that was because there was no water in it and the day before when there was water, it causes resistance on the pump and again, thought I needed an adjustment for tighter contact? So if you have any pump tricks, I'd sure like to learn them!
I'm hoping to have this up and running in the next week. It would be so great if everything works and nothing leaked!!
Larry
Mike, what do you mean about the upward pull? Last week when washing the pump didn't work. I assumed it needed more adjustment. But when I was taking things apart, I'd flip the pump lever to ON and the pump roller was engaged and rotating against the pulley rim. So I thought maybe that was because there was no water in it and the day before when there was water, it causes resistance on the pump and again, thought I needed an adjustment for tighter contact? So if you have any pump tricks, I'd sure like to learn them!
I'm hoping to have this up and running in the next week. It would be so great if everything works and nothing leaked!!
Larry
mickeyd
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HI Larry,
The original hose is thick, stiff, and hard. To get it off the holding couple, the operating instructions say to grasp the hose with both hands and pull upward to release the hose from its post. That always stuck in my head: all those rituals to begin the drain sequence. I often wondered if the upward pull had anything to do with aligning the parts below. Maybe so, maybe not.
Then one rosy washday afternoon, I engaged the pump, but nothing happened. So I gave a yank on the longer, more pliable replacement hose, and thar' she blows.....
Thereafter, she always blew just fine. Just a fluke perhaps, and I do whatever works, especially if it's easy. It's worth a try, and please believe Larry, that's I have nowhere near the skill of many here, so don't expect mechanical miralces from me. "Ah gar un teeeeee." ; 'D
The original hose is thick, stiff, and hard. To get it off the holding couple, the operating instructions say to grasp the hose with both hands and pull upward to release the hose from its post. That always stuck in my head: all those rituals to begin the drain sequence. I often wondered if the upward pull had anything to do with aligning the parts below. Maybe so, maybe not.
Then one rosy washday afternoon, I engaged the pump, but nothing happened. So I gave a yank on the longer, more pliable replacement hose, and thar' she blows.....
Thereafter, she always blew just fine. Just a fluke perhaps, and I do whatever works, especially if it's easy. It's worth a try, and please believe Larry, that's I have nowhere near the skill of many here, so don't expect mechanical miralces from me. "Ah gar un teeeeee." ; 'D
geoffdelp
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Larry ... Mickey is right about the instructions ... here they are and I quote right from the instruction manual:
"To lower the drain hose on non-pump models, place your left hand on the lower third of the hose, move the hose to the left and push in. With your right hand, lift the nozzle of the hose out of the bracket.
On pump models, push the lower portion of the hose in toward the tub with your left hand while lifting the nozzle of the hose out of the bracket with the right hand. Hook curved end into sink, tub, or drainpipe and move pump control lever (located at the lower edge of the cabinet) to "ON". Washer must be plugged in to operate pump. If water flow stops with pump "ON" before the tub is emptied, move the pump lever off and on once or twice until the flow is resumed."
With that being said, what I would suggest, Larry, is that you make sure the pump is aligned and connects with the flywheel while the hose is in the bracket; not laying down. When you lay the hose down on the floor, it loosens its connection with the flywheel. It's better to adjust the pump while the hose in hooked in the bracket.
Make sense?
"To lower the drain hose on non-pump models, place your left hand on the lower third of the hose, move the hose to the left and push in. With your right hand, lift the nozzle of the hose out of the bracket.
On pump models, push the lower portion of the hose in toward the tub with your left hand while lifting the nozzle of the hose out of the bracket with the right hand. Hook curved end into sink, tub, or drainpipe and move pump control lever (located at the lower edge of the cabinet) to "ON". Washer must be plugged in to operate pump. If water flow stops with pump "ON" before the tub is emptied, move the pump lever off and on once or twice until the flow is resumed."
With that being said, what I would suggest, Larry, is that you make sure the pump is aligned and connects with the flywheel while the hose is in the bracket; not laying down. When you lay the hose down on the floor, it loosens its connection with the flywheel. It's better to adjust the pump while the hose in hooked in the bracket.
Make sense?
e2l-arry
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No,
But I'll try it!
When I thought I had a gravity drain, I did find the instructions made sense. By pushing in on the hose it took pressure/resistance off the top of the hose making it easy to get out of the hook. If you didn't follow the directions, you had to wrestle the hose off it's post. I now have longer hose and didn't have to follow those directives to get the hook over the sink. Next time I'll try it the book way.
I really couldn't figure what could be wrong with the pump anyway. It's 100% mechanical. If the pump wheel is turning, the pump must be working.
That's the beauty of these. No circuit cards, no solenoid valves, no timers, just 1 electric motor that runs the works.
But I'll try it!
When I thought I had a gravity drain, I did find the instructions made sense. By pushing in on the hose it took pressure/resistance off the top of the hose making it easy to get out of the hook. If you didn't follow the directions, you had to wrestle the hose off it's post. I now have longer hose and didn't have to follow those directives to get the hook over the sink. Next time I'll try it the book way.
I really couldn't figure what could be wrong with the pump anyway. It's 100% mechanical. If the pump wheel is turning, the pump must be working.
That's the beauty of these. No circuit cards, no solenoid valves, no timers, just 1 electric motor that runs the works.
geoffdelp
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True, Larry. But I have to wonder if you have "too much" hose creating too much slack on the pump. The original hoses were installed flush to the side of the washer cabinet and had some resistance while in the hanger; it would stay put.
Something to mull over ...
Something to mull over ...
Humm
I don't think I get it either!
However
I've already done, what Larry's done, I made my own hose, and goose neck, I leave mine hooked to the sink. The only time I unhook it from the sink is when I'm finished with all the wash, and I'm draining the left over into a bucket!
I don't push or pull on anything, just move the lever to ON or OFF. No problem. Pump dose what I want, when ON... empties the tub right quick! LOL
I don't think I get it either!
However
I've already done, what Larry's done, I made my own hose, and goose neck, I leave mine hooked to the sink. The only time I unhook it from the sink is when I'm finished with all the wash, and I'm draining the left over into a bucket!
I don't push or pull on anything, just move the lever to ON or OFF. No problem. Pump dose what I want, when ON... empties the tub right quick! LOL
e2l-arry
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We'll see soon enough
Once I get it back together and do the water test as described by Geoff, that'll also give me a chance to try out the pump. I'm sure the last time I adjusted it I had it laying on the floor, out of the way. Next time I'll have it in the "parked" position. This still has the rigid black washer drain hose on it. It's just a little longer because I converted the gravity drain hose that I bought earlier. I'm thinking of cutting it down to fit normally on the hook on the tub. Mine sits right in from of the laundry tub when I use it so I don't need the additional foot or whatever it is. But looking at the set up, I can see where giving it a tag could be just the thing to get a good connection between the pump wheel and the drive pulley. Couldn't hurt! Unless I pull the hose off and dump 18 gallons of wash water on the floor. With my luck . . . . I'll make SURE that clamp it tight! HA!
I got an email from the guy that sold me the EBay transmission this morning. He said he mailed me a new drive pinion seal. I'm not sure what that is?? It had the oil drip from the pulley shaft. I took that apart and cleaned it out and thought the seal looked good. So I think I'll wait until that shows up before I put it, the power unit, back in the machine. That'll give me a weekend off! If it's a spankin' NEW seal I'll put it on. If it's something else, I'll just proceed.
Once I get it back together and do the water test as described by Geoff, that'll also give me a chance to try out the pump. I'm sure the last time I adjusted it I had it laying on the floor, out of the way. Next time I'll have it in the "parked" position. This still has the rigid black washer drain hose on it. It's just a little longer because I converted the gravity drain hose that I bought earlier. I'm thinking of cutting it down to fit normally on the hook on the tub. Mine sits right in from of the laundry tub when I use it so I don't need the additional foot or whatever it is. But looking at the set up, I can see where giving it a tag could be just the thing to get a good connection between the pump wheel and the drive pulley. Couldn't hurt! Unless I pull the hose off and dump 18 gallons of wash water on the floor. With my luck . . . . I'll make SURE that clamp it tight! HA!
I got an email from the guy that sold me the EBay transmission this morning. He said he mailed me a new drive pinion seal. I'm not sure what that is?? It had the oil drip from the pulley shaft. I took that apart and cleaned it out and thought the seal looked good. So I think I'll wait until that shows up before I put it, the power unit, back in the machine. That'll give me a weekend off! If it's a spankin' NEW seal I'll put it on. If it's something else, I'll just proceed.
e2l-arry
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I started the re-re-assembly tonight.
That drive pulley seal from the EBay guy was in today's mail. It didn't look much different from the one I took out and cleaned last week but the new one was a tiny bit thicker. So I went ahead and changed them out. That extra thickness was just enough to make a real project out getting the snap ring back on. Last week that was the hardest part but I only spent about 5 minutes on it. Today's was about 45 minutes getting that sucker back on but I finally got it!
Next part was putting the power unit back in the machine. Another new oil fill and the new gaskets then re-attached the center plate and tightening down the 2 bolts. Very careful not to over or under tighten this time and I think I got it right. I did play around with the raising and lowering of the unit using the adjustment bolt from below. Seems to work fine but I set it at the recommended 1/4". When the tub goes in if I need to adjust up OR down, I will.
Here's a trick I learned when I went to remove the pulley and used it again tonight to tighten the pulley bolt onto the shaft. That locking bolt has a funky square bolt. I couldn't find anything that would fit to remove it. So I took a socket extension. The side that attaches to the ratchet is square also and fit that bolt. So I use the socket extension then tighten or loosed by using a pair of vice grips on the other end. Works like a charm!
Then I got the belt on the motor and pulley and took it for a spin. Even though it's a conventional washer that doesn't spin. Ironic huh? The first test to pass was the agitator activation. It's back to pull for agitation and push to stop. Then I let it run for 30 minutes. Stopped and checked for any oil leaks. There were none. Let it rest and checked again. No leaks. Then let it run another 25 minutes. No leaks from the pulley shaft or anywhere else.
Tomorrow night's project is the re-installation of the pump. So much easier without the tub. I want to make sure I get it lined up so it makes contact and spins when the lever is set to "ON" and stops when moved to "OFF". Then if there's time, the tub!
Speaking of the tub, I noticed over the weekend that the bottom wasn't completely flat. One small area was dented/bowed slightly down. The could have also been a leak path. So I held it to the concrete floor and flattened it with a hammer. It's 100% flat now. I just didn't notice that before. Maybe I had done that by over tightening a bolt? Maybe I got it that way? I do remember it didn't seem to fit flatly on the center plate the first time so I may have discovered why.
So a couple of steps successfully completed, a couple of more to go!
That drive pulley seal from the EBay guy was in today's mail. It didn't look much different from the one I took out and cleaned last week but the new one was a tiny bit thicker. So I went ahead and changed them out. That extra thickness was just enough to make a real project out getting the snap ring back on. Last week that was the hardest part but I only spent about 5 minutes on it. Today's was about 45 minutes getting that sucker back on but I finally got it!
Next part was putting the power unit back in the machine. Another new oil fill and the new gaskets then re-attached the center plate and tightening down the 2 bolts. Very careful not to over or under tighten this time and I think I got it right. I did play around with the raising and lowering of the unit using the adjustment bolt from below. Seems to work fine but I set it at the recommended 1/4". When the tub goes in if I need to adjust up OR down, I will.
Here's a trick I learned when I went to remove the pulley and used it again tonight to tighten the pulley bolt onto the shaft. That locking bolt has a funky square bolt. I couldn't find anything that would fit to remove it. So I took a socket extension. The side that attaches to the ratchet is square also and fit that bolt. So I use the socket extension then tighten or loosed by using a pair of vice grips on the other end. Works like a charm!
Then I got the belt on the motor and pulley and took it for a spin. Even though it's a conventional washer that doesn't spin. Ironic huh? The first test to pass was the agitator activation. It's back to pull for agitation and push to stop. Then I let it run for 30 minutes. Stopped and checked for any oil leaks. There were none. Let it rest and checked again. No leaks. Then let it run another 25 minutes. No leaks from the pulley shaft or anywhere else.
Tomorrow night's project is the re-installation of the pump. So much easier without the tub. I want to make sure I get it lined up so it makes contact and spins when the lever is set to "ON" and stops when moved to "OFF". Then if there's time, the tub!
Speaking of the tub, I noticed over the weekend that the bottom wasn't completely flat. One small area was dented/bowed slightly down. The could have also been a leak path. So I held it to the concrete floor and flattened it with a hammer. It's 100% flat now. I just didn't notice that before. Maybe I had done that by over tightening a bolt? Maybe I got it that way? I do remember it didn't seem to fit flatly on the center plate the first time so I may have discovered why.
So a couple of steps successfully completed, a couple of more to go!
Hi Larry
so, at this point I see you have the right angle bolted to the P.U.
Do you have it slightly loose at the wringer post ? (to help with any adjustment later) Or is it all bolted together, and the adjustment will be with just the one bolt under the P.U?
so, at this point I see you have the right angle bolted to the P.U.
Do you have it slightly loose at the wringer post ? (to help with any adjustment later) Or is it all bolted together, and the adjustment will be with just the one bolt under the P.U?
G'morning Larry,
Coffee and information reading time. Sounds like you are right on track with what you have done so far. I for one am anxious to hear that she is all assembled and washing. I am now wondering how long this thread will be available in the club on line? I hope it will be forever for others to learn from as we have. A lot of information is held in this thread. I told Myron my Amish friend about the vaseline trick on the lettering on the front Larry and he tried it and KaBoom it worked. Looks much better than just the tops of the letters being shiny. Good luck as you continue.
Best !
Jim
Coffee and information reading time. Sounds like you are right on track with what you have done so far. I for one am anxious to hear that she is all assembled and washing. I am now wondering how long this thread will be available in the club on line? I hope it will be forever for others to learn from as we have. A lot of information is held in this thread. I told Myron my Amish friend about the vaseline trick on the lettering on the front Larry and he tried it and KaBoom it worked. Looks much better than just the tops of the letters being shiny. Good luck as you continue.
Best !
Jim
mickeyd
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"Anticipation" ~ the song.
She's tapping her foot waiting for the pump, and then it'll be all quiet on the western front, and you can move on. I really can't wait to see what machine you find for your next project. Hmmmmm, I wonder what it will be?
PS: The tug on the hose may be the secret move..... shhhhhh, but the flooding is funny, pulling too hard, indeed!
She's tapping her foot waiting for the pump, and then it'll be all quiet on the western front, and you can move on. I really can't wait to see what machine you find for your next project. Hmmmmm, I wonder what it will be?
PS: The tug on the hose may be the secret move..... shhhhhh, but the flooding is funny, pulling too hard, indeed!
e2l-arry
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Anticipation -
Now I won't get anything done Mike. I got that Carly Simon song stuck in my head with a real hankerin' for some Gen-U-Wine, Heinz Ketchup! MMmmmmmmmm Heinz. The slowest ketchup in the west!
Now I won't get anything done Mike. I got that Carly Simon song stuck in my head with a real hankerin' for some Gen-U-Wine, Heinz Ketchup! MMmmmmmmmm Heinz. The slowest ketchup in the west!
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